Parts Cross-Reference Matrix?

[opus10583]

Hi,

Anyone know of a parts cross-reference matrix for the Spider?

...How about the OEM supplier and part no for an 1800 oil pressure gauge sender?

Thanks,
Mark

[Fiatmonkey]

Fiat made a "Master List" back in the day on the big 5.5" floppies. It wasn't perfect but it had all the numbers and went back and forth on what Fiat # they were using and in what years. But very few of those survive today (I've seen one). But the part you are looking for I've seen on most of the major vendors website. So with that said it seems like in a way the major vendors have done kinda what you are looking for.

[opus10583]

Thanks.

What I'd like to find is a cross reference between a FIAT part and an OEM and/or other vehicle manufacturer's part numbers.

Something like

Pozzo Johnsoni, sinistra (Left-Handed Johnson Rod)
FIAT 637529-2
TRW 555354 (supercedes 554369)
CHEVY 666/666 (Vega 1972-1975)

Thanks,
Mark

[htchevyii]

http://www.mirafiori.com/sub/subcat.html

[opus10583]

http://www.mirafiori.com/sub/subcat.html

[opus10583]

http://www.mirafiori.com/sub/subcat.html

Hi,

I appreciate your help. ...But that's not what I'm looking for in either form or substance.

I guess I'm I just overly cheezed about having to shell out $60 for a low-resolution pressure transducer. I could use that instead for a pair and a spare of top rubber bands, or a down payment on a right side mirror.

Signed,
Feeling Gouged in NY

[grittracing]

ACK!lol

[manoa matt]

$60??? You are not looking hard enough.

http://stores.auto-ricambi.net/-strse-1 ... Detail.bok

http://www.classicricambi.com/index.php ... cts_id=194

Vintage Italian car = get used to being gouged. However I've found that parts for our cars are less than 1/2 of what comparable parts for modern cars fetch. The drawback is that spider parts usually need to be replaced with greater frequency.

[opus10583]

Thanks, but:

$60??? You are not looking hard enough.

http://stores.auto-ricambi.net/-strse-1 ... Detail.bok

Don't care to deal with them again. I am NOT being overly particular in expecting 5 exhaust nuts to be matching:
"Parts is Parts" is BS.

http://www.classicricambi.com/index.php ... cts_id=194

...Takes a lot of hutzpah to call yourself Classic Ricambi while pitching "$20 Cibie Replica" headlights.

Vintage Italian car = get used to being gouged. However I've found that parts for our cars are less than 1/2 of what comparable parts for modern cars fetch. The drawback is that spider parts usually need to be replaced with greater frequency.

One reason I chose FIAT over Alfa is not wanting to play the Sandy Prostate-Exam Game.

There is nothing rare or unobtainable concerning the mechanical pieces of these cars.

[manoa matt]

I'll tell you what takes a lot of hutzpah: Quitting your secure 9-5 day job, putting your and your family's future on the line to open a Fiat Spider parts business. All for a single car model with a troubled past, in a bad economy, when there is already a handful of established vendors. The owners of both of those companies have done just that.

Vendor #1 may carry parts A, B, and C. While vendor #2 carries parts B, C, and D. No one vendor can carry all OEM or NOS parts. Just be happy there are people out there devoted to supplying parts and keeping these cars on the road.

Recently you've asked for a lot of advice on this Fiat forum, and many helpful thankless individuals have provided good information only to be meet with an Alfa owner attitude. Fiat owner = Fiat attitude

"There is nothing rare or unobtainable concerning the mechanical pieces of these cars." Tell that to the vendor next time you are on the phone with them and see what they say.

[johndemar]

I'll tell you what takes a lot of hutzpah: Quitting your secure 9-5 day job, putting your and your family's future on the line to open a Fiat Spider parts business. All for a single car model with a troubled past, in a bad economy, when there is already a handful of established vendors. The owners of both of those companies have done just that.

Vendor #1 may carry parts A, B, and C. While vendor #2 carries parts B, C, and D. No one vendor can carry all OEM or NOS parts. Just be happy there are people out there devoted to supplying parts and keeping these cars on the road.

Recently you've asked for a lot of advice on this Fiat forum, and many helpful thankless individuals have provided good information only to be meet with an Alfa owner attitude. Fiat owner = Fiat attitude

"There is nothing rare or unobtainable concerning the mechanical pieces of these cars." Tell that to the vendor next time you are on the phone with them and see what they say.

Ditto Matt..
While I can't speak for classic racambi, Csaba and Ramzi have my unquestioned trust. In fact, I have received phone calls from them when there were questions about an order. These guys are the only vendors that have ever called me to follow up on an order and to make sure it was right. I'm at a point now where I'm about ready to start the interior of the spider. Guess who will get the majority of the business? If you have a problem with your order, pick up the phone and make a call.
These are 2 good guys just trying to make a living while doing all of us a great service in having the parts we need to keep our cars running.

[opus10583]

I'll tell you what takes a lot of hutzpah: Quitting your secure 9-5 day job, putting your and your family's future on the line to open a Fiat Spider parts business. All for a single car model with a troubled past, in a bad economy, when there is already a handful of established vendors. The owners of both of those companies have done just that.

Vendor #1 may carry parts A, B, and C. While vendor #2 carries parts B, C, and D. No one vendor can carry all OEM or NOS parts. Just be happy there are people out there devoted to supplying parts and keeping these cars on the road.

Recently you've asked for a lot of advice on this Fiat forum, and many helpful thankless individuals have provided good information only to be meet with an Alfa owner attitude. Fiat owner = Fiat attitude

"There is nothing rare or unobtainable concerning the mechanical pieces of these cars." Tell that to the vendor next time you are on the phone with them and see what they say.

Hi Matt,

As for the vendors you suggested: The one I have purchased from can't handle matching five nuts and was a bit dismissive of my concern ...might have made the wrong choice in shopkeeping. As for the other, well, to each their own but I am not assured by cheap knock-offs at any price point, in either case I think the "parts is parts" attitude is to be avoided so, while the price they ask for the oil sender part I want is attractive, the deal is not confidence inspiring: "Buy cheap, buy twice" and all that. I can't afford to throw money away so how I'm treated by a shop, or how they present themselves, makes or breaks my purchasing decisions. YMMV.

As for 'an Alfa attitude', you can't mean me: I've mentioned I looked at Alfas, quite a few. I wanted nothing to do with the people I met or the cars I found. It caused my to make an impulsive and emotional buy and thereby get a bit ripped-off. I could have bought a couple of other small convertibles, and by the end of this season I'll be into S2000 territory it appears, I chose a Spider in large part for its absence of pretension. I'm trying to fit "86 RAGING Horsepower" on a vanity license plate ...kinda hard to get all chesty on top of that.

And yes, I have asked for a lot of info here; this is indeed a marque and model specific forum and I have a lot of catching up to do; I have tried to be nothing but polite and am indeed grateful: I apologize if I've stepped on your toes, and to anyone who's helped me who feels "thankless".

Thanks,
Mark

[Fiatmonkey]

I'm not sure what it is about this forum, but everytime it comes down to it people refuse to acknoledge everyone. Yea parts are hard to find some times. No NOS is not a reliable source. No not every part for these cars are available, BUT that's is true to all of the cars EVER made by ANYONE! So, sure it's easy to try and find parts, but it's another thing to actually get them. You search the web ask the forums, but time and time again its the same people answering the same questions and spinning things the way they see them. No one know the whole truth behind any story or why anyone does anything.

Why doesn't someone just say "here are the vendors and good luck"? They have phone numbers and email address or most and take internet order via their website.

http://www.international-auto.com/ (i typed in oil guage and it poped right up from there search bar)
http://www.vickauto.com/ (i typed in oil guage and it poped right up from there search bar)
http://www.fiatplus.com/ (i typed in oil guage and it poped right up from there search bar)
http://www.fiatparts.com/ (better to just call him his website is very dated)

I could say that every one of those companies are doing the same thing by trying to keep their doors open in a down economy. And, they have all been doing this for quiet some time, so their knowledge seems to be pretty spot on. I didn't mention the Ricambi's because you already have, and I didn't mention Mark as if you are on this forum I would assume you know he exsists.

All I'm saying is when some one really askes just give him the answer not your answer. I know my first reply was pretty short and I made an ass out of myself assuming he knew all the vendors. But, if it one thing you can learn from the internet people will slant things every way they please, without accountability.

So, with all this said why don't we all stop posturing for our respective corners and help this fella find his part. I have listed 4 VERY RELIABLE sources. He has already said he doesn't like the Ricambi's, so everyone point this guy in some directions. Because, by god they are out there!

THE MONKEY HAS SPOKEN!

[johndemar]

It was not my intention to get anyone's panties in a twist, just saying that if you communicate with the majority of the vendors they will bend over backwards to try an accommodate you. And yes a computer does make things somewhat impersonal. I have owned FIATS for over 35 years and can remember days before the internet when Art Bayless was next to the only game in town. Situation was still the same, if you have a problem pick up the phone and work it out. If it isn't to your satisfaction then move on to the next vendor.

[opus10583]

Hoping to steer this thread back toward the path of enlightenment...

Since there are all sorts of parts on most cars that are not in any way proprietary, something like this might be very useful:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64460

WARNING: If you stray from the indicated thread you can't say I didn't warn you.

Thanks,
Mark