Turn signal speed
Turn signal speed
I'm in the last throws, I hope, of getting my new to me '80 ready for certification. The turn signals work but they seem slow to me. I've done the brown wire fix so they should be a at full speed which is a little over 1 second btw flashes.
What is supposed to be the normal speed for these cars?
What is supposed to be the normal speed for these cars?
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Re: Turn signal speed
I *think* it's half a second on, half a second off. We sell electronic flashers that keep the blink speed more constant, although they do slow down a bit too with low voltage.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
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Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
Re: Turn signal speed
what strength of voltage should be coming into the turn signal or the licence plate lights? I checked an it is 10.58. I'm thinking that is a little low.
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Re: Turn signal speed
It does sound low. Between 12 and 13 volts would be ideal, the higher the better.parsok wrote:what strength of voltage should be coming into the turn signal or the licence plate lights? I checked an it is 10.58. I'm thinking that is a little low.
Was this with the car running or not? The battery has ~12.7 volts, but if the car is running, the stock alternator puts out 13.5-13.8 volts, so the readings at the bulb would be higher.
The hi-po 95 amp alternators put out ~14.5 Volts, that is why everything works better with those
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
Re: Turn signal speed
Ok, so aside from the speed of the signals i have another issue.
All of the lights work. however, when I turn on the left signal this happens: left front signal and mark flash; both tail lights flash and the right rear signal light flashes. It is the opposite for a right signal.
Ideas?
Tx Dave
All of the lights work. however, when I turn on the left signal this happens: left front signal and mark flash; both tail lights flash and the right rear signal light flashes. It is the opposite for a right signal.
Ideas?
Tx Dave
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Re: Turn signal speed
>left front signal and mark flash
What do you mean by 'mark'?
Sounds like the rear taillights are not grounded properly.
What do you mean by 'mark'?
Sounds like the rear taillights are not grounded properly.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
Re: Turn signal speed
Oops, meant 'marker' or sidelight.
I tried searching for the taillight ground but so far can't find it. Advice?
I tried searching for the taillight ground but so far can't find it. Advice?
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Re: Turn signal speed
dave the bulbs you bought was the wrong ones
the contacts are touching bothsides causing back voltage
they sell 1157 and a simalar style with contacts at 90 degrees to each other
yes i could be wrong myself
and im sorry if thats so
but thats what went thru my head
the contacts are touching bothsides causing back voltage
they sell 1157 and a simalar style with contacts at 90 degrees to each other
yes i could be wrong myself
and im sorry if thats so
but thats what went thru my head
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Re: Turn signal speed
I think they ground under one of the studs of the left taillight. BTW, those Spider 2000 taillight circuit boards can have internal breaks, and that will drive any man insane trying to diagnose the problem. For sure check that all the rivets that hold the bulb holders are tight.parsok wrote: I tried searching for the taillight ground but so far can't find it. Advice?
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
Re: Turn signal speed
Here's the next update:
replaced the turn signal bulbs with 1156. Without the car running I checked the signals and they worked and worked quickly. Woohoo, victory is mine
Still not running I turned the parking lights on and the signals worked but at half the speed. Turned the headlights on and they stopped working. So now its WTF?
Note the PO wired together the A & B fuse holders on the fuse block. Not sure why.
Ideas?
Dave
replaced the turn signal bulbs with 1156. Without the car running I checked the signals and they worked and worked quickly. Woohoo, victory is mine
Still not running I turned the parking lights on and the signals worked but at half the speed. Turned the headlights on and they stopped working. So now its WTF?
Note the PO wired together the A & B fuse holders on the fuse block. Not sure why.
Ideas?
Dave
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Re: Turn signal speed
have the key on for that test with headlights
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Re: Turn signal speed
First, I would test with the car running, as that's how you will be using the lights
Then I would remove the ground stars in the front of the engine compartment, clean them, reinstall them, and make sure every wire that gets connected is nice and tight.
Then I would remove the ground stars in the front of the engine compartment, clean them, reinstall them, and make sure every wire that gets connected is nice and tight.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
Re: Turn signal speed
had done the grounds previously. I try with the car started tomorrow and report back.
Re: Turn signal speed
Here's the report: Exactly the same with the car running. signals work great until either the parking or headlights are switched on. I'm thinking either a signal relay, faulty light switch or lack of power with the 55A. Picking up the 95A from Mark tonight so I'll put it on and have a go.