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adapted124

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Post by adapted124 »

Hi there,
I reside in the uk and am a keen spider lover. I had Fiat twin cams years ago (131 Mirafiori sport(brava) & strada's) but am disabled now due to an injury. I really hope to (in the near future) buy a Spider but i needed some advice.
There is a firm here called dtr sports cars that restore them, can be up to £30,000 or $48,000 approx (i think) depending on spec (they also do rhd conversions using coupe parts). But then i have seen mint low mileage volumex's going for that in Germany and other places in europe. I know volumex's are very desirable here (only below the abarth but that's a little too hardcore for me!). I am wondering if the supercharged option may be more maintenance in the long run and better to go for a nice 1800 or something like that, or maybe a 2000 minus the emission strangulation - no offence! Manual transmission (with auto clutch fitted + hand controls as i'm not keen on an auto box).
Sorry for such a long script being an introduction, but thought i'd get off my chest :lol:
narfire
Posts: 3959
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:14 am
Your car is a: 1980 124 spider
Location: Naramata B.C.

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Post by narfire »

Hi there and weclome. Hope you can find a Spider over there. Where abouts in the UK do you hang the hat?
Several people on this forum live there. Several are on the continent as well.
A normally aspirated 2L FI car has good power, easy to maintain. Plenty of options if you want to tune up the handling, swap wheels/tires. If you want a bit more power, the cams, headers and other bits and pieces are available as well. I have found once the FI is sorted, it remains relatively issue free.
Chris
80 FI spider
72 work in progress
2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
adapted124

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Post by adapted124 »

Thanks for your reply and info Chris, I hope i can find one too!
I live in Oxfordshire, near Oxford.
To be honest i didn't really want to pay as much as that really anyway and have seen quite late 2L FI models lightly restored for around the £8,500, that would give me plenty of scope for a nice modded car, wheels, brakes, suspension etc (RHD done also).
That was another question, I was maybe thinking of a fast road tune. Guy Croft is a well known tuner here, looking around the 150 bhp mark using twin 45 webers or the like with the standard cams. What could i look to get using injection? It would probably be a lot less maintenance not needing carb balancing etc and i would be happy with say 125 or 130 bhp.
LHD's are a lot less money in the UK and hence less desirable unless a limited edition like the VX and abarth.
Regards, Jase
narfire
Posts: 3959
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:14 am
Your car is a: 1980 124 spider
Location: Naramata B.C.

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Post by narfire »

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adapted124 wrote:What could i look to get using injection?
quote="adapted124"]i would be happy with say 125 or 130 bhp

I think that would be easy to achieve and still keep the stock injection system. I have wanted to take my car to get dyno'd but to date hasn't happened yet. I have gone from stock to bolt on bits and pieces but the real wake up was with the head work and after market cams. I had my engine re-bored to 84.4 with Mahle pistons, lightened flywheel, headers, everything balanced, ported/matched head with Marks 274 FI cams, degreed in properly and that has really livened up the engine and is still fine when stuck in traffic. I currently am using the FI head but the 1800 head evidently will give a bit of a bump in the compression.
The one thing I do keep an eye on with the FI system are the fuel lines and conections. If they are not sound, the 35+psi will cause drips and the alternator and starter are right below the fuel rail.... nasty.
Good luck in your quest..... (it will be easier that the "holy grail" :lol: )
Chris
80 FI spider
72 work in progress
2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
adapted124

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Post by adapted124 »

Thanks again for the useful info Chris

I bet you are itching to get yours on the dyno to see what it's putting out after all that work, nice bit of kit by the sounds of it :wink:
Good that it still behaves in traffic too, one reason i don't wan't to go overboard, I still want something with a bit of grunt and usability for the street and with reasonable economy.
Interesting point on the fuel lines and possible leaks, something i didn't know of.

Hope your luck helps, cheers, it may be as late as this time next year before i own one :cry: but i'm sure it will be worth the wait. It's probably nearly twenty years since owning a fiat twin cam although the yearning for another has not subsided :lol:
Jase
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