Tach jumps
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Tach jumps
Installed an electronic ignition on my 74 spider now the tach needle jumps up a little, when I rev the engine tach needle goes up with rpm when I let off on the gas pedal needle goes to to zero than back to 900 and starts to jump a little. Anyone have an idea what is going on, did not do this when I had the old dist. with dual points on.
Nick
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Re: Tach jumps
Nick the tach is energized by the coil.I would check all my connections in that area.I had a similar issue last week,and found a wire from my control module had a bare spot.It was grounding intermittently on my coil mount.My tach would go from a steady 2500 and jump to 6000!! All better now.Good luck
Craig Nelson
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1982 Spider 2000...pride and joy
1981 Fiat X1/9..gone but not forgotten
1976 124 Spider..the self-healer
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Re: Tach jumps
Nick,
I put an electronic ignition system in my spider several weeks ago and the exact same thing happens, but only at idle...and very slightly every 3 or 4 seconds. It runs great, though...interesting...
Don
I put an electronic ignition system in my spider several weeks ago and the exact same thing happens, but only at idle...and very slightly every 3 or 4 seconds. It runs great, though...interesting...
Don
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Re: Tach jumps
Will look for lose connection or bare wires grounding.
Thanks
Nick
Thanks
Nick
Re: Tach jumps
Also open your dizzy and check the screws to be tight and for bare wires just had a problem with a screw that had come out .my tack was jumping
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Re: Tach jumps
Just added a solid state coil, no oil, tach was erratic especially at idle, dropping to zero then jump up. Added ground from heats ink. Problem solved. Appears the new bolts I added for mounting to fender did not make a very good contact for the ground.
By the way engine ran fine.
When in doubt add and check grounds!
By the way engine ran fine.
When in doubt add and check grounds!
Luck Dana
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Re: Tach jumps
Thanks will add another ground and see if it stops jumping a real pain in the you know what.
Nick
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Re: Tach jumps
my tach is acting erratically as well, so this is timely for me!
please let us know what you find out?
please let us know what you find out?
I'm no Boy-Racer..... but if I can't take every on-ramp at TWICE the posted limit.... I'm a total failure!
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Re: Tach jumps
I found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6j3glUtecY
Would anyone have any photos so I know what I am doing in our cars?
Would anyone have any photos so I know what I am doing in our cars?
Jay
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Re: Tach jumps
Apparently if you just wait until the next morning it corrects itself Still could use the photos, I will try later
Jay
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Re: Tach jumps
This may help you:
http://www.mirafiori.com/faq/content/ta ... achfix.htm
Although in the article John speaks of the Marelliplex the FIAT-Marelli electronic distributor caused the same issue with all types when retrofitted to an earlier, formerly points-type, vehicle.
http://www.mirafiori.com/faq/content/ta ... achfix.htm
Although in the article John speaks of the Marelliplex the FIAT-Marelli electronic distributor caused the same issue with all types when retrofitted to an earlier, formerly points-type, vehicle.
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Re: Tach jumps
Brad, as always, many thanks. I was going to go with this type of solution. Can this be done regardless of the Tach's behaviour? Mine seems to corrected itself. Only did it for one day. I have made no changes to system
Jay
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Re: Tach jumps
Sure, won't hurt anything. It is an odd service letter in that they call the plex out specifically, but the plex and the other distributors, coils, etc. are all exactly the same except for the advance mechanism. When the plex was sold it was an upgrade part for cars made prior to 1979, it was not intended for the later cars, which already had tachs with capacitance built in.4uall wrote:Brad, as always, many thanks. I was going to go with this type of solution. Can this be done regardless of the Tach's behaviour? Mine seems to corrected itself. Only did it for one day. I have made no changes to system
Which means there's a kicker, late model tachs stick and fail more often than early model, typically right on the 78/79 line. Might be a coincidence, might not, but I've rarely had failed 68-78 instruments at all (excluding the clock) and I have a box or two of failed 79 on stuff, even X1/9 stuff.
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Re: Tach jumps
Hi Jay (or anyone else).
Did you ever install the tach fix?
Mine is till bouncing at idle even after replacing the dizzy pickup (previous one had wire damage inside the dizzy), module, and vacuum advance unit.
So I'd like to install either the capacitor (mirafiori.com) or resistor (YouTube), but wanted to know which way to go.
Thanks.
Did you ever install the tach fix?
Mine is till bouncing at idle even after replacing the dizzy pickup (previous one had wire damage inside the dizzy), module, and vacuum advance unit.
So I'd like to install either the capacitor (mirafiori.com) or resistor (YouTube), but wanted to know which way to go.
Thanks.
Giulio/Charlotte
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Currently own an '81 Turbo (removed) Spider
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Owned a '74 Spider, '68 Firebird, a '65 GTO convertible, and a customized '74 650 Yamaha
Currently own an '81 Turbo (removed) Spider
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Re: Tach jumps
Mine was jumping due to a loose connection at the starter solinoid. The power wire that connects to the back of the ignition switch had a film of oil at the connector. Pulled it off and cleaned it up and no more problems. The car ran fine just the tach jumping.
Dennis Modisette
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1972 124 Spider
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