Finally! Wanted a spider 34 years ago.....But,

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wizard124
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Your car is a: 1980 124 spider FI
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Finally! Wanted a spider 34 years ago.....But,

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as a poor college student, looking to buy his first car, I didn't have the money! So, here is my Fiat story.....

I settled for a 1971, 124 Sport Coupe. Less money than the spider back then but same guts. Pure stock, around 75K miles, red, black interior, with a black vinyl roof. Ran good but was burning some oil. Within a year or so, I pulled the engine and tranny and went to work. I learned the European version was hot so I made some mods in the re-build. More radical cams, dual Weber downdrafts, headers, Ansa exhaust, electronic ignition, and had it painted a more Ferrari red! What college kid doesn't love a red sports car?? Somebody help me.... there was Bayless and another Fiat specialty parts source back then. I also bought a set of custom seats from one of them.

Drove it through college and had it for my first couple of years in the Navy. I even towed my U-Haul with it from Pensacola to Kingsville, Texas. That U-Haul was loaded with little more than a Kawasaki GPZ 550 sport bike (red and black, of course). But the summer heat during my time in S. Texas was killing me! I traded my Coupe in on a 1986 Toyota Supra (yes, red! AC ,yes!). Remarkable, how that Toyota was so similar to a 13 year old Fiat..........belt driven double overhead cams, 5 speed manual, 4 disc brakes, independent suspension. Those Italians were certainly innovators in car and engine designs!

Well, the other day while browsing on Craigslist, I noticed a local garage had a couple spiders for sale. I went down to talk to the guy (an Italian by birth, with nothing but Fiats and Alfas in his shop). Well, we spent close to an hour talking cars. He stated how much he liked the FI system on the newer cars. Although, I didn't buy his car, he planted a seed.....

I went on-line and found this site and searched parts availability, pricing, interior carpet, seats, tops, etc. I also found another spider posting.

Here is the car I bought last week: 1980 Spider fuel injected. 56K original miles, 5 speed, Gray paint, blue interior, hard top. The PO had obtained it from the Original Owner (who he claims had been a Fiat dealer, bought for his son). When I showed for the test drive the car had been warmed up but would not start w/out a jump (oh!). We head out for a drive: engine idles nicely and runs well, 4th syncro is out, brakes a bit mushy, wipers don't work, odometer working. I notice a bit of over spray around the hood and small interior damage under the hood but the car is really straight with minimal issues as far as I can tell. The car needs more work than the ad led me to believe. He lowers his price (it is running!, new fuel tank, pump and filter, cored radiator) and says he will throw in the spare parts.

Deal done! The spare parts filled the bed of my truck! heads, cams, a transmission, fan, distributors, stacks of gaskets, cam wheel, belts.......some used but others still in Fiat boxes and wrappers. I have only begun to inventory and take note of all he gave me. Some parts may be for other Fiat or Lancia models. Seeing the parts validated a good part of the car's history.

I'm probably NOT going to re-paint it red. I'm thinking of working with the current color....maybe a metallic silver or gray or light blue exterior ...not to clash with the current color of the door jams, trunk lid, etc. Comments, ideas, suggestions?
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This door panel is revolting (maybe why Fiat left America!?)! Is this stock? What are my options here? Recommendations for sources for panels, interior sections and, carpet?
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Looks all stock. I need to get it California smogged.
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Very little rust that I have found so far. This picture and a little near the driver's door sill.
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More work to do. I am missing the panels under the dash, left and right. Wiring loose. Anyone have pictures of this area so that I can see what it is supposed to look like??
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Going to its new home!!!! Mine!!!!
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BTW, love this forum! Currently working on an alternator problem. More tasks to come.
Thanks, Warren
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4uall
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Your car is a: 1980 Fiat Pininfarina Spider 2000 F.I.
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Re: Finally! Wanted a spider 34 years ago.....But,

Post by 4uall »

hello & welcome to the best place on earth :mrgreen:

I am a big fan of http://www.autoricambi.us/

Carpeting can be done yourself http://forum.fiatspider.com/f08/viewtop ... t&start=15

Lots of great people here with amazing advice & guidance :wink:
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welcome on board !
door cards should not be too difficult to source. I think they are on some vendors catalog.
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Your car is a: 1980 Fiat 124 Spider Silver
Location: Sydney, Australia

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that is very similar to mine, I have just changed my interior to red and the silver paint has been changed a little
Here is an older pic
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and here is a more recent pic
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And a pic of the door card I fabricated and covered myself (I'm not a trimmer), it is a temporary measure (like so many things on my car). I picked up the masonry board (don't know if it is called that in the US) from our local hardware store and the vinyl I picked up from a proper vinyl suppliers, I also bought some thin sheet foam for padding. Using the original as a template, I traced the old card, drilled and punched holes then using a staple gun (I had to cut down the staple to less than 4mm) stapled it all together imitating the original card. Kind of amazing what you can do on you own in a weekend??
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Out of curiosity what is the VIN number and Month on the plate in the door jam?
Cheers David
-=1980 silver Fiat 124 Spider=-
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wizard124
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Your car is a: 1980 124 spider FI
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Re: Finally! Wanted a spider 34 years ago.....But,

Post by wizard124 »

Divace, nice job on those panels. Did you re-paint (if possible?) or buy those arm rests?

I checked those numbers. 1-80 and #0172052. Are yours close? Is there any other significance to them?
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Re: Finally! Wanted a spider 34 years ago.....But,

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If the door panels are in good condition you can repaint them to any color with vinyl paint.

Not sure if you realized it, but that center console is from a 124 Coupe. The Spider console does not have vents, instead it has a place for a radio. I wonder if there is any ducting routed to those vents? I put such a console in my Spider and routed AC ducts to it.
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divace73
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Your car is a: 1980 Fiat 124 Spider Silver
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wizard124 wrote:Divace, nice job on those panels. Did you re-paint (if possible?) or buy those arm rests?

I checked those numbers. 1-80 and #0172052. Are yours close? Is there any other significance to them?
The door handles had been painted black by the PO, to match the mid console (been painted black from blue) and lower console (recovered in black) which are black, the blue has come through in some places.
I did paint the rear seat but it is a different colour red.
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You can get a pretty good job with the vinyl paint, shame the colour is that much different.
I was trying the re-upholstery VS painting idea as it is my temporary measure which I'm sure will be for many years???

Re the numbers, the placard on the door Jam is missing on my car so I have no idea what the month it is but my VIN no is 169158??? There are inconsistencies with Fiats numbering system vs the door placard system.

I also noticed like my car your has those aluminium scuff plates under the door sill.
Cheers David
-=1980 silver Fiat 124 Spider=-
If you want to see pics of my car (and other random stuff) >>click here<< OR
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wizard124
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Your car is a: 1980 124 spider FI
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Re: Finally! Wanted a spider 34 years ago.....But,

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vandor wrote:If the door panels are in good condition you can repaint them to any color with vinyl paint.

Not sure if you realized it, but that center console is from a 124 Coupe. The Spider console does not have vents, instead it has a place for a radio. I wonder if there is any ducting routed to those vents? I put such a console in my Spider and routed AC ducts to it.
Good observation! I was unaware.......did a quick check and those vents do not have ducting. The manual refers to a passenger side panel which holds relays,chimes, etc. That is missing. Is it compatible with the Coupe console? May just leave it as is and wire tie the loose ends up under the dash...
vandor
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The relay panel is not anywhere near the console, it is under the glovebox.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
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There are a number of good places for parts:
http://www.allisonsautomotive.com/
MrFiat.com
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Auto ricambi
Midwest Bayless.

good luck with the restoration! spend some time on the forum, as there is a lot of great information here!
mPedro08
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Along the journey I ended up with a stock boot cover the same color as your interior if you happen to be missing yours....

PM me an email address for pic if interested.
2ndwind
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Congrats. A friend of mine's parents gave him a new spider in 1974. A few years later another friend bought a used silver spider. I too have wanted one since those days. Bought an '82 3 yrs ago, 34 years later!
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