Weird running

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markee
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Your car is a: 1977 124 SPIDER 1800

Weird running

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Last year when I did my annual tune up I had my spider running perfectly with a new 34adf, this year for some weird reason it's been a pain,i had the car running well yesterday after finally re-discovering the vauge timing marks on the pulley and setting the timing and idle which went ok, then I went for a test drive and there was a little hesitancy on acceleration so I got back and tweaked the mixture as I thought it was running a bit rich (plugs bit sooty. I went out again and it seemed fine but when I started it today it took at least 2 attemps to start from cold as it seemed the choke did not kick in straight away ( which I can sort out), but once the choke had kicked in the damn thing hesitated and poped once, like a back fire. Then as my journey continued and the engine was at pretty much normal temp the idle was much lower than when I set it yesterday and the slight hesitancy was back, although this improved a bit as I went on. I have replaced the points (single set), rotor arm, condenser and have a new coil. Could I have fitted a faulty condensor maybe? The points are gapped at 0.40mm. Help!
mdrburchette
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Your car is a: 1972 Fiat 124 Sport
Location: Winston-Salem, NC

Re: Weird running

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The gap should be at .50mm or .018 to .020". I don't know if this is what's causing your problem though. What do you have your timing set at?
1972 124 Spider (Don)
1971 124 Spider (Juan)
1986 Bertone X19 (Blue)
1978 124 Spider Lemons racer
1974 X19 SCCA racer (Paul)
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markee
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Your car is a: 1977 124 SPIDER 1800

Re: Weird running

Post by markee »

Timing is set at 0 deg as per the Brooklands manual and was running perfectly with this setting last year.
mbouse

Re: Weird running

Post by mbouse »

i set my timing on a warm engine, properly idling at 10°BTDC, then recheck the idle RPM
mdrburchette
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Your car is a: 1972 Fiat 124 Sport
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Re: Weird running

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Yep, mine's set at 10 btdc also.
1972 124 Spider (Don)
1971 124 Spider (Juan)
1986 Bertone X19 (Blue)
1978 124 Spider Lemons racer
1974 X19 SCCA racer (Paul)
2012 500 Prima Edizione #19 (Mini Rossa)
Ever changing count of parts cars....It's a disease!
markee
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Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:43 pm
Your car is a: 1977 124 SPIDER 1800

Re: Weird running

Post by markee »

I guess I could try 10 deg, every book or person says a different setting ! It's an 1800 1977 btw.
markee
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Re: Weird running

Post by markee »

If the correct setting was 0 deg and I ran it at 5 or 10, what overall effect would this have in terms of performance and economy?
So Cal Mark

Re: Weird running

Post by So Cal Mark »

you would notice improved perf, slightly better economy and higher emissions
markee
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Re: Weird running

Post by markee »

I think i'll try it at 5 deg and see how it goes. Thanks for the help guys! 8)
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