Edit... Resto mod FIRST DRIVE

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vandor
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Did you build your own exhaust?
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I did Csaba.
I purchased a Flowmaster set of mandrel bent aluminized pipes and cut, fit and butt welded (most of) the joints to fit the car.

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It leaks
It smokes
It stinks
It's not timed
And a few other things...
BUT!!!!

http://youtu.be/Htd6iuYwHhg

Happy times!!!
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Well done!!!
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Just watched your vid…I'm excited well done… :mrgreen:
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congrats!
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well done sir
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Thanks much!!
I'm acting like a ten year old at Christmas!!
Well, except for the chianti!!
I set the timing, basic anyway, and tightened up my exhaust joint but not enough...
My water pump is leaking at the gasket a bit, my tach is not working, my wine glass is half empty :shock:
Nope, not being a pessimist, that's just the truth!
No matter the minor issues, I am extremely pleased to hear it run!
Here is another video, after a bit of tweaking.

http://youtu.be/UDqwgZGrG2U

Thanks for all the encouragement along the way gang!!
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I like it... Sounds real good now. I can't wait to fire up my v6!

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Congrats!!!
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Great Job.... 3 months until the Spring Thing .... ;)
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A couple of observations; upon initial startup, it's best to have the static timing set and the oil pump primed to avoid excessive cranking. This is critical if you have new cams that need to be broken in. Even if the cam is coated with assembly grease, that amount of cranking will wipe it off and you may have premature camshaft failure. Oil pump should be primed so that all parts get lubricated right away. With new cams it's critical to have it start and run at about 2000rpm, so timing, carbs, cooling system should all be prepped to accomplish that.
I'm curious about the covers on your carbs. It looks like the covers were pumping up and down while cranking. Are they covers or filters? If they're filters, they may be way too restrictive if the air flow sucks them down into the air horn.
I noticed the fuel pressure gauge needle didn't move. Was their already pressure when the video began?
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a big, giant CONGRATS! sounds great.
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Three months... Yikes! I might be driving it to Texas with a nice coat of primer on it...
No, wait, I'll get it done!! Too many goals missed already!

Mark, first, thanks for the observations!
"A couple of observations; upon initial startup, it's best to have the static timing set and the oil pump primed to avoid excessive cranking. This is critical if you have new cams that need to be broken in. Even if the cam is coated with assembly grease, that amount of cranking will wipe it off and you may have premature camshaft failure."

I will be the first to admit that if I was smart enough to set the static timing before I cranked it... I would have. Actually, I thought I was a lot closer than I ended up being and thinking I was close, I moved it just a bit each time. Again, I'm not so good at this and cross my fingers, I haven't done myself major harm with all my tries.

"Oil pump should be primed so that all parts get lubricated right away."

That I did do... I filled the cam boxes with oil and primed the oil pump. I cranked it with no plugs until I was sure there was oil moving.

" With new cams it's critical to have it start and run at about 2000rpm, so timing, carbs, cooling system should all be prepped to accomplish that."

Hopefully, my saving grace is the fact that these are not new cams and that I did have them bathed in oil while I did all that cranking.

"I'm curious about the covers on your carbs. It looks like the covers were pumping up and down while cranking. Are they covers or filters? If they're filters, they may be way too restrictive if the air flow sucks them down into the air horn."

They are just covers so that I don't mess up and drop something down the intake. Until this morning, I had the intake ports at the head all taped off, just to be sure. Some time around lunch I pulled the intake and removed the tape. Yea, I'm a chicken!!

"I noticed the fuel pressure gauge needle didn't move. Was their already pressure when the video began?"

Haven't resolved that one yet. The gauge is reading 1lb which, as far as I understand, isn't enough for the carbs. Should be more like 2 1/2. So, I have to learn more about my regulator and verify that the gauge is working.
Needless to say, I have done nothing with the carbs. They are straight out of the box and need tuning. That may be my next giant step in the project. Or, maybe I'd like to figure out why my tach isn't working...

Thanks again everyone for all the help and kind words!!
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I forgot to answer one question Mark, yes there was fuel pressure already. I filled the filter bowl and hot wired my pump until fuel came out the line just ahead of the filter.
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