82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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wrkalot

82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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I'll make a long story short... I need a new fuel pump :) In the past we have always gone with the bosch pump but In doing a little online shopping I've stumbled on a couple of other pumps. FYI, this is not a daily driver and total miles per year are a few hundred at most.

So here's the question... Why spend $250ish when there are a couple out there in 100 dollar range? I found an AIRTEX and Bosch pump in that price range.
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Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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I am with you .I dont see why you would spend double if you dont have to.I have seen posts here and on other sites w/ substitution guides for fuel pumps and other parts.Bosch probably makes some of the internals on other badged pumps.Let us know what you go with and post the part no. for some of us other F.I. owmers.I am sure someone will chime in here with a substitute pump reccomendation.
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Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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I just replaced my fuel pump two weeks ago. Bought a Bosch unit at my local Advance Auto Parts store (in stock!) for around $100. You will also want to replace the fuel filter and rubber fuel hoses at the same time.
John
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Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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If you want to spend less and get a used pump, there are many Bosch pumps that will do. Mine is from a VW Bus. It has the same dimensions, in and out fittings, and only varies in having nut wire connectors rather than spade ones. I only cost me $70 and looked almost brand new.

However, when shopping for either new or used pumps, it is tough to sort out the pump specs, not only the output, but the in and out fittings. Be aware that even though various aftermarket pumps will state that they are good for the fiat spider, many do not actually put out sufficiently. If the maker does not state the actual output, beware, in my opinion. The problem is that the manufacturers do not want to make a zillion pumps, so they "bracket" heavily, and often end up stretching the applications.

Similarly, Bosch themselves replaced the multitude of pumps they made over the years with just a few pumps that "bracket" many others. This handy table explains what most of the original numbered bosch pumps put out and what the modern replacement pump puts out.

http://www.leicestertr.co.uk/Part%20Num ... /pumps.pdf

Using my original pump, it seemed to me that ideally, we need a pump that sustains 300 kPa (system pressure), but if your engine is stock like mine, I found that the next "bracket" down, which is 250 kPa works fine. Even that might be overkill; I don't know. But the table is revealing, and it was the only thing really helpful for me in evaluating a minefield of aftermarket and junkyard pumps.

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Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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generally, Mercedes pumps have the best output
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Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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The fuel pump I bought was not marketed as a universal pump. It is Bosch part #69133. Bosch says it fits Fiat 124, Brava and X-19, along with a couple of Lincoln/Mercury models. Retails for around $100.
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Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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Thanks for all of the reply's... the Bosch 69133 is one of the less expensive ones I found I was referring to. Looks like that's the way I'll go.

Thanks again!
NickSpider

Re: 82 2000 Fuel Pump Question

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someone mentioned new rubber fuel lines, where is the best place to get these? Will the local auto parts carry them? What sizes do our fiats use?

i ordered my fuel pump from Vicks and they sent me a generic Mr Gasket Co. fuel pump, Micro Electronic fuel pum # 12S. it was like 90 bucks or something like that.
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