Hi everyone,
Just picked up a 79 last weekend. It needs a little work.
It has one of those "10 foot" paint jobs where it looks nice until you get up close and see the low spots, sanding marks, etc. Pretty rust free though - I only found three quarter size areas where a magnet was weak or wouldn't stick to the body. Drivers floor pan has been replaced w/ sheet metal & machine screws but seems passable for now. Rockers still have a bit of rust I can feel with my hand. Pass. trunk had a dent pulled evident by the bondo left oozing from the holes drilled for the puller on the inside. Looks like the lower front panel took a whack too and PO did kind of a poor bondo/duct tape(!) job on that then sprayed over it so it isn't noticeable unless you are on the ground looking.
Runs great and strong with no noises, etc. - for about 10 minutes and then the bucking/stalling comes out of nowhere once the needle starts approaching 190. I'm no stranger to fixing cars (I am a Jeep nut too) so I'll get it sorted out. Did find insulation rubbed off distributor pickup wires so taped/moved them but problem persists so I'm probably just going to replace the coil/ignition module and see where I'm at. Will probably just replace the dual plane and ADHA too. We'll save all that for another thread though. PO hard wired fan on 100% off the coil + so I've put that back on the wires its supposed to be on and have a new fan radiator switch on order since it appears to be o/c at temp. PO's electric fuel pump makes a banging noise as it operates to that may be the problem with my bucking once its warm. The mechanical pump is still on the block and looks newish so I'm going to see if it moves fuel and if so I'll hook it up and see what happens. Looks to have a 4-2-1 already as it has 2 pipes from the manifold down to the underside and then joins to 1.
No turn signals, dash illumination, or headlights but otherwise everything electrical seems okay. Brake lights and parking lights do work as do all the gauges thought the fuel sender seems to have an intermittent ground. Interior is so-so - center console looks like it was attacked by an animal but the dash is perfect (probably recapped by a PO I'm guessing.) The radio area was hacked up too so PO could fit a non-DIN 80's Ford tape deck so I'll probably have to replace that at some point. Drivers vent hinge is in the glove box so the vent is just shoved into the seal to keep it in place. Seats are actually perfect except for a small 4" section where the stiching has come undone on the drivers seatback. Interior is all blue - not a huge fan.
5 speed, suspension, subframe/shock towers, and exhaust all perfect. New battery and brand new tan soft top. All the trim and badges and stuff is complete. It actually looks really nice if you ignore the interior and occasion rough spots in the paint prep.
This is actually my 2nd spider. I had a 78 (or was it a 76?) in the 90s that had rusty rear wheel arches, leaked fuel inside the cab and would stall randomly from sucking air through the rust holes, and made a horrible racked from the valve train. I paid $600 for that one back then and sold it for $750 a year later w/ only an oil change, carb rebuild, and new fuel lines invested. Paid $1K for this one (plus 250 for the tow home ) so I think I got a fair deal. Hopefully I won't go broke fixing the 30 little problems it has.
New 79 in SE WI
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
Welcome! I'm over in Sun Prairie, been on this forum since I bought my 72. I've learned an amazing amount through the members here; ask and you'll get great help!
Neil
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Neil O'Connor
Madison, WI
72 FIAT 124 Spider
12 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit
14 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Eco-Diesel
ex-71 FIAT 124 Coupe
and a host of Audi's, Saabs, VW's, MOPAR's, Fords, and a Bimmer....
Madison, WI
72 FIAT 124 Spider
12 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit
14 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Eco-Diesel
ex-71 FIAT 124 Coupe
and a host of Audi's, Saabs, VW's, MOPAR's, Fords, and a Bimmer....
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
Pete (RRoller) has an excellent message about getting pictures posted to the Forum (we all like pictures!).
Per Pete:
Welcome aboard! You will find plenty of knowledgeable and friendly people here.
Here is a thread on how to post pictures directly to the forum:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21014
And here is another picture-posting thread:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=23084
This short instruction covers how to resize pictures so that they don’t get cut off at the right side:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30441
And here is a link to a map of Spider owner’s locations. Many forum members have listed their locations.
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=191825
Once Again, Welcome!
Pete
Per Pete:
Welcome aboard! You will find plenty of knowledgeable and friendly people here.
Here is a thread on how to post pictures directly to the forum:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21014
And here is another picture-posting thread:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=23084
This short instruction covers how to resize pictures so that they don’t get cut off at the right side:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30441
And here is a link to a map of Spider owner’s locations. Many forum members have listed their locations.
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=191825
Once Again, Welcome!
Pete
Neil O'Connor
Madison, WI
72 FIAT 124 Spider
12 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit
14 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Eco-Diesel
ex-71 FIAT 124 Coupe
and a host of Audi's, Saabs, VW's, MOPAR's, Fords, and a Bimmer....
Madison, WI
72 FIAT 124 Spider
12 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit
14 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Eco-Diesel
ex-71 FIAT 124 Coupe
and a host of Audi's, Saabs, VW's, MOPAR's, Fords, and a Bimmer....
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
I am in the middle of moving and of course my PC died, so I lost the usual greeting/instruction, will be back soon.
'80 FI Spider 2000
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'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
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2003 Jaguar XK8
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
Good luck with both, Pete!
Neil
Neil
Neil O'Connor
Madison, WI
72 FIAT 124 Spider
12 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit
14 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Eco-Diesel
ex-71 FIAT 124 Coupe
and a host of Audi's, Saabs, VW's, MOPAR's, Fords, and a Bimmer....
Madison, WI
72 FIAT 124 Spider
12 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit
14 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Eco-Diesel
ex-71 FIAT 124 Coupe
and a host of Audi's, Saabs, VW's, MOPAR's, Fords, and a Bimmer....
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
Thanks! Moving the Spider to a storage locker on the cape tomorrow morning. Nice 100 mile drive.
'80 FI Spider 2000
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
Bon voyage Pete! Hope all goes well. We are here waiting for your return.
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Re: New 79 in SE WI
Thanks for the kind welcomes. I haven't had much time to work on it yet but I finally completed my ignition upgrades this past weekend. New distributor pickup, new ignition module (I believe the OEM one was still in there as it was stamped Magnetti Morelli), and a Pertronix Flamethrower II 0.6 ohm coil. Wires, cap, and rotor all looked newish so those were left for now. The HEI module had very little heatsink compound left on it and POs fingerprints all over it. The coil I removed didn't appear to be for an electronic ignition as it stated it it needed a ballast resistor right on the can. I think maybe someone maybe put a 78 coil in there. I also added another ground pigtail from the top screw of the module to where the chassis ground connects to the Fiat aluminum heatsink/coil holder JIC.
Unfortunately it didn't have any effect on my immediate issue - it still bucks like mad after ~ 10 mins. of running - but at least now I know the ignition probably won't let me down in the future and I have a box of spares for the trunk.
So next step is to put on the '78 1800 intake and Holley 5200 I picked up. Probably won't get to it until next weekend though.
What do you guys like for electric pumps? It currently has one of those crappy elecrtric block pumps on there and its SOOOO loud - like someone hitting a snare drum twice a second - that it can't possibly be normal noise - although I don't seem to be having fuel issues as when it starts bucking I can hit the throttle under the hood and get healthy streams of gas from the accel. pump. So I don't think the bowl is emptying at least.
-Dave
Unfortunately it didn't have any effect on my immediate issue - it still bucks like mad after ~ 10 mins. of running - but at least now I know the ignition probably won't let me down in the future and I have a box of spares for the trunk.
So next step is to put on the '78 1800 intake and Holley 5200 I picked up. Probably won't get to it until next weekend though.
What do you guys like for electric pumps? It currently has one of those crappy elecrtric block pumps on there and its SOOOO loud - like someone hitting a snare drum twice a second - that it can't possibly be normal noise - although I don't seem to be having fuel issues as when it starts bucking I can hit the throttle under the hood and get healthy streams of gas from the accel. pump. So I don't think the bowl is emptying at least.
-Dave