Catalytic Converter
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Catalytic Converter
Theoretically would the removal of the converter increase performance on a FI car? If so, could the same performance increase be achieved by removing the innards of a catalytic converter and reinstalling? Not that I would ever do such a thing........
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Banging out the innards with a long rod has been suggested, but for track use, off road only, of course. Illegal for street use.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Depending on how the cat was made, banging the guts out is a big PITA. I did it on mine, but would not do it again, I would buy a "test pipe" instead.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
I think it was Midwest Bayless that used to sell the flanges used to make a test pipe. Fuel Injected spiders use the four bolt flange.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Yes, but a test pipe would not pass a visual inspection (if one was inclined to do this).klweimer wrote:Depending on how the cat was made, banging the guts out is a big PITA. I did it on mine, but would not do it again, I would buy a "test pipe" instead.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Ahhhhh the ol' visual inspection dilemma.
There is a post where someone described just how difficult it was to bang out the insides of their cat. It sounded like an all day affair.
There is a post where someone described just how difficult it was to bang out the insides of their cat. It sounded like an all day affair.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
You will pass a eye inspection but fail a smog test. Use test pipe and keep the converter just in case
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Well IF I was going to do this, I would probably try and find an inoperable converter. And we no longer have smog tests in Ohio.ORFORD2004 wrote:You will pass a eye inspection but fail a smog test. Use test pipe and keep the converter just in case
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Could you cut a converter open to make clearing it out easier, then weld it back together again?
If it were me I'd swap between the two, but if you don't have smog testing in Ohio do you really need to worry about the visual test?
If it were me I'd swap between the two, but if you don't have smog testing in Ohio do you really need to worry about the visual test?
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Re: Catalytic Converter
The "test pipe" and retaining the Cat seems to make the most sense. The pipe would give smoother flow through the exhaust system, and there is value in the Cat either for future regulatory use or in the precious metals inside it.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
And what about the OP's original question, "Would it increase performance?"
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Well, we would have to hear from people who have done this.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
When I remove mine, I put a test pipe that I made. It was too loud for me so I replace the test pipe with a resonator.
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Re: Catalytic Converter
Did the Resonator provide improved performance over the CAT?
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Re: Catalytic Converter
I'd bet the test pipe would add to the performance of the car simply because the original cat is bound to be full of junk and somewhat restricting.