For years and years I have wondered about my Spider's cooling fan. No, the car never overheats. Not at all. it generally takes a good fifteen or longer minutes of hard driving for the temperature gauge to read normal and then just stays there. (We don't deal with things like "traffic" here in the Monadnocks -- and even stopping for a red light is rather a rarity) But still, I wondered, shouldn't that fan occasionally come on?
Having been doing quite a bit of driving lately, and planning on another long back-road blast later this morning, I popped the hood to check the oil level (fine), and then, just for fun thought I'd wiggle the connections on the temp sensor to clear any contact spooge and check for tightness. All seemed fine. And then... what's this?... I found what may just prove to be the answer of why the fan never seemed to go on. It was totally disconnected! The white male/female wiring connectors were completely apart. Just hanging there, clipped to the radiator support.
How long it has been that way I can't say. But years and years certainly.
Mind you, there are many such unused connectors in my car. Here, there and everywhere. Engine compartment. Trunk. Under the dash. And that for several reasons.
One, the car -- originally from Florida -- had once had an air conditioner. That was before I bought her back in `88. Too, being a `77, she originally must have once had lots of rude and crude anti-pollution gizmos -- Yes? -- again, gone before I bought her. (Interestingly she, if well warmed, passed even Massachusetts' strict 'stick this up your rear' test without them. She runs clean.)
And then there were other things. Things long gone, and never identified. Several such unused connectors, for instance, near the ignition switch.
But the cooling fan... well that should certainly be connected. It certainly once had been, for living and driving in Boston had once required it. All that silly stop and go stuff! (Do some of you still deal with stuff like that?)
Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see if the fan now occasional turns on. But today, being only in the 70s, and the roads I plan to drive totally open, I likely won't find out.
Yes, I could just let her idle for a while. That'd do it I imagine. But why? She's never suffered for want of the fan in now how many years?
Still, it is funny. Disconnected. Unnoticed. And for all those years.
I blush with shame.
-don
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Thank the lucky stars for a good thermostat, good water pump, clean radiator and no leaks to introduce air into the system
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seabeelt wrote:Thank the lucky stars for a good thermostat, good water pump, clean radiator and no leaks to introduce air into the system
Yeah. And no traffic. Especially no traffic.
-Don
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I'd say either your lucky or your temperature gauge is not reading right. It really doesn't take much effort to overheat a Spider. They will overheat on their own when other cars won't. I've got a 68 Ford with a 302 and drove it around with a bad radiator cap and it never ran hot. But if a radiator cap goes bad on a Spider, the overflow tank will boil over.
When I bought my Spider back in 1992, the fan switch was the first item I had to replace.
I picked the car up on Friday, went cruising on Friday night and noticed my gauge was almost in the red. The next day I went on a hunt for a fan switch.
When I bought my Spider back in 1992, the fan switch was the first item I had to replace.
I picked the car up on Friday, went cruising on Friday night and noticed my gauge was almost in the red. The next day I went on a hunt for a fan switch.
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Owned it for 28 years. It has never overheated.Turbofiat124 wrote:I'd say either your lucky or your temperature gauge is not reading right. It really doesn't take much effort to overheat a Spider. They will overheat on their own when other cars won't.
It may be that the fan is now working, but that it just doesn't get hot enough. In theory I should worry about it. In fact it is not an issue.
I read elsewhere that the thermostat opens when the gauge typically hits the "0" on the 190 and that the fan should turn on a bit later.
Mine never reaches that temperature. It gets to between the "1" and the "9" and never hotter.
But as I said, for some years I have not had to drive it in traffic. Just an *occasional* stoplight. (Most of my preferred drives are 45 to 60 miles and have none, or perhaps one)
That's the Monadnocks. (And one reason I chose to live here)
Of course yours is, at least going by your moniker, a turbo. Mine is a typical under-stressed 1800 sans extra plumbing. I.e., yours may put out a lot more heat than mine and that heat has to go somewhere.
-don
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Does the engine normally run around 190F?
When I got mine the thermostat was stuck open and ran about 130F all the time. Until I came to a stop light. So it gave me plenty of time before I noticed that the fan was not kicking on when it should.
When I got mine the thermostat was stuck open and ran about 130F all the time. Until I came to a stop light. So it gave me plenty of time before I noticed that the fan was not kicking on when it should.
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Mine does. Or a bit below.Turbofiat124 wrote:Does the engine normally run around 190F?
Gets up there fairly slowly and then pretty much stays with little fluctuation.
I have, some time in the past, seen it get a bit higher. But never anywhere near the red.
-don
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