Air Filter Question

[tonyfromjersey]

So, my car is at the body shop for another few weeks and all I can do is peruse catalogs. I was looking at the air filter options, such as the Free Flow Air Cleaner from Vick's or simply putting in a K and N filter. Do I lose or gain anything with the free flow filter? I know it looks cool, better than the stock air cleaner. I'm in New Jersey and registered as a classic so no emissions testing for me.

It's cold, and I'm bored and don't have my car to tinker with. My son's pinewood derby car is a poor replacement for my car, plus the kid wants to work on it himself. I don't know how he expects to win like that.

[adrians]

Tony - What a "1963 Boeing KC135R" - a large refueling plane ? Where do you keep it ?

[tonyfromjersey]

I keep it about 20 minutes from here, yes its my part-time job as an Air National Guard pilot. I also fly the MD-80 for American Airlines but that's just to keep me in auto parts, Ipods and such.

Tony

[htchevyii]

Gus @ fiatcenter.com was selling a pretty nice bracket, filter mount and filter for less than half of what IAP wants. I have the bracket on my '82.
http://fiatcenter.com/bbv2/bbBoard.cgi? ... mail%2Ecom
egvistaca@hotmail.com

[TulsaSpider]

Link comes up blank. How about a pic?

[baltobernie]

The aftermarket free-flow units are noticeably noisier in the cockpit; louder for sure than the left seat in the "Douglas Death Tube ". But it's a great sound, except after a couple of hours.

[manoa matt]

Tony,

K &N makes a round filter that fits the stock air cleaner, its about the same price as an aftermarket free flow "lunch box" style unit which will include the air cleaner housing and the filter. Both options will be "free flow" and both should be washable/oil type filters that will last almost as long as your car. Both will let the car breathe easier and should provide you with a bit more gas mileage and power. Like others stated, the lunch box type will be louder, but the sound is great and produces a growl that the stock cleaner won't.

The one advantage of the stock setup with a K&N filter is that the snout of the air cleaner points towards the front and should pick up colder air than a lunch box type which will suck up mostly hot air from the engine bay. However, how much cold air the stock set up takes in is questionable since the snout opening is so small, and there may or may not be an opening in the grill area for air to come in.

An ideal setup would be a 79 carbed version stock air cleaner that has the opening in the grill area and the cold air tube that connects the opening to the snout of the carb. Install a K&N filter and you have a true cold air free flow intake system.

Most cars already have a small hole in the right spot in the front grill area, but the carbon canister is usually in the way. If you can relocate the carbon canister and run a hose from the hole to the air cleaner snout that might help bring in cold air to the carb.

[racydave]

Tony, Make your own Pinewood derby car, and challenge some of the other parents to race! I still have mine... I was so bored one winter, I made a model car also.

[htchevyii]

This is the best pic I could find, the car is in storage.

[TulsaSpider]

Ah well Tony's Spider is listed as a "77" so I thought we were talking about carb filters!

[htchevyii]

Guess I wasn't paying attention! How about this instead?

Ebay special with slight mods to the bottom mount. I think it was 15-20 clams. I can't tell you how it works yet, though.

[TulsaSpider]

Reeeeeeaally? What was it "supposed" to fit??? What did you have to modify?

[fiasco]

Reeeeeeaally? What was it "supposed" to fit??? What did you have to modify?

I'm interested in an answer to this as well. I've only searched a little, but I haven't found an inexpensive lunchbox that says it fits the 32ADF. If I can get an alternative with minimal modification, I'd jump on that pretty quick.

-- se

[Ernie]

Well...if you don't mind doing some modifications, here a link to check out:

http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/bug ... ntake1.htm

I've purchased air cleaners here for the DFEV and IDF's. They're inexpensive, made of rather thin metal, but get the job done. I found the rectangular ones to have the same outline as the K & N.

It seems to me a guy could take dremel tool and drillto the base of the IDF air cleaner and make it fit any of the carbs we use on the Spiders.

One could also take the base of the aircleaner from the DFEV and add a plate that matches your carb and attach that to the purchased air cleaner with pop rivets or small nuts and blot, perhaps.

Worth a try for not too much spending.

Ernie

[So Cal Mark]

a previous response suggested the 79 style filter with the cold air intake. Here is what a recent article in Hot Rod says about cold air;
"Assuming the air/fuel mixture is adjusted to allow for the change in mixture density and the engine has no detonation or other problems, every 10 degree -F temperature drop is worth a 1 percent hp gain."