i am going to take my engine out of my 69, in which i have it totally stripped right now
i am wondering , what i could do to zip up that engine a tad, id love to have a duel carb set up
so if i want that, what would i need to work with that, does not have to scream i want it to look awesome for
what it is, but i know i need to do other things for the carbs to work together
i need ideas or
put me a engine package together ( recipe ) so i can follow it ( don''t get to carried away now
i am looking to spend approx 3800.00
thank u,
1608 engine
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1608 engine
Jim
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Re: 1608 engine
dual webers and an exhaust sytem would make most difference so i would count in one of Mark Allison beautifull exhaustheaders
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Re: 1608 engine
how much are those
i have a header on mine
thanks
i have a header on mine
thanks
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
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2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
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Re: 1608 engine
People that really know what they're talking about will chime in soon, but you'll want to reduce weight and open it up to let it breathe.
We ported and polished the cylinder head and did a valve job. If you don't have the tools and knowledge to do this, your best bet would be to send it to Jon Logan at http://www.midwest124.com He knows where to take the meat off and how to port match the head to the manifolds at a reasonable price.
The block was machined. I went with .040 over pistons. The one thing you'll run into with the 1608 is trying to find pistons. I had to have mine custom made which can cost you up to $200 a piston.
You can get the flywheel lightened to reduce weight and also get some lighter pullies. Miller's Mule http://www.millersmule.com/ does some fine work for our 124 Spiders at reasonable prices. When you get your lighter components, it's important to have everything balanced to the block by the machine shop. I bet I lugged my block and various parts to the machine shop 4 times before everything was done.
Cams would help performance wise especially if you open up the flow (intake/head/header). I'm running 42/82s on my 1608 and I have smooth idle and transition through the rpm range with my 40 IDFs. Some people believe these are two radical for a street engine but I believe since my engine is balanced it makes a big difference.
IDFs are fun little carbs, especially if you have a Jeff Scheferman in your pocket to help keep them tuned, but you can also go with a single plane manifold from an early 1800 and put a nice sized single carb on it for a great performance gain.
We ported and polished the cylinder head and did a valve job. If you don't have the tools and knowledge to do this, your best bet would be to send it to Jon Logan at http://www.midwest124.com He knows where to take the meat off and how to port match the head to the manifolds at a reasonable price.
The block was machined. I went with .040 over pistons. The one thing you'll run into with the 1608 is trying to find pistons. I had to have mine custom made which can cost you up to $200 a piston.
You can get the flywheel lightened to reduce weight and also get some lighter pullies. Miller's Mule http://www.millersmule.com/ does some fine work for our 124 Spiders at reasonable prices. When you get your lighter components, it's important to have everything balanced to the block by the machine shop. I bet I lugged my block and various parts to the machine shop 4 times before everything was done.
Cams would help performance wise especially if you open up the flow (intake/head/header). I'm running 42/82s on my 1608 and I have smooth idle and transition through the rpm range with my 40 IDFs. Some people believe these are two radical for a street engine but I believe since my engine is balanced it makes a big difference.
IDFs are fun little carbs, especially if you have a Jeff Scheferman in your pocket to help keep them tuned, but you can also go with a single plane manifold from an early 1800 and put a nice sized single carb on it for a great performance gain.
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1971 124 Spider (Juan)
1986 Bertone X19 (Blue)
1978 124 Spider Lemons racer
1974 X19 SCCA racer (Paul)
2012 500 Prima Edizione #19 (Mini Rossa)
Ever changing count of parts cars....It's a disease!
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Re: 1608 engine
ok thanks, i have talked to the guy at midwest ( thru email i mean )
he said for 3800 he could do a alot, i can not recall,. i thought i had it all in email
and another person told me i am better off just going stock
what to do? what to do lol
he said for 3800 he could do a alot, i can not recall,. i thought i had it all in email
and another person told me i am better off just going stock
what to do? what to do lol
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider