Clutch pedal question

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Baz
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Clutch pedal question

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I am at the last stage of my conversion from auto, and have a problem. There is a spring and 'S' shaped rod to be installed on the clutch pedal. I have tried and tried to see how this is fitted, and my 60yo back has had enough. I assume the rod fits somehow to the pedal and the spring is anchored in the pedal box frame, but as there is no hole in the pedal to locate the rod I am at a loss to figure out how this setup is attached.

My back and I would be very grateful for some help. The manuals only show the components....not how they fit.
Baz
So Cal Mark

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the S hook goes over the round barrel of the pedal from the top. the spring attaches to the small S end then up to the pedal box. It's an over-center spring that helps to both push and pull the clutch pedal. There is a small notch in the barrel of the pedal that the S hook locates in
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Mark, Thanks for your reply, my pedal has a fork at the top to take the cable and below that there is a 'V' cut or notch. I don't seem to have a 'Barrel' as you put it. It is difficult to see how the spring would attach to the v then curve around to the pedal box. Can you elaborate for me...sorry but maybe i have a different pedal or something.

Baz
halg

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My 69 pedal assambly didn't have the spring or s hook. My 72 did have the spring, maybe you hav an early pedal assembly.
Hal
So Cal Mark

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the barrel would be the round part that the pedal pivots on-where the long bolt slides through. The large S hook wraps over and around that part. The V merely locates the hook to keep it in place
halg

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Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words
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Halg, thank you so much for the pic, very good of you....I have located the hook and spring in the correct position as per the pic, but what kind of Gorilla did you use to stretch the spring to it's anchor point ??? Jeesus !!!! That SOB is one tough spring !!!!
Baz
Brian

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Get yourself a roll of pennies, open them and put them next to your vise.
Now, stick one end of the spring in the vise, grab the other and bend it so that your spring is now a U shape. Stick a penny in between each coil. Now bend the spring the other way and do the same.

Your spring is now long enough to set in place. (you may have to use a few nickels) Depress the pedal and release and all the coins fall out. I've done this and it really works!
pope

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Watch TV very early in the morning. Write down the number for P90X body building DVD's and do them religiously for 90 days. One the 91s day the spring will be nothing to install.
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Brian...well done !! Bloody brilliant !! Lying under the dash trying to stretch that spring was a very nerve racking experience. I felt like a burst sausage in an aids ward.

Thank you all so much...this forum is gold !!!!!

Baz
00sportsman

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Baz, I too am considering the conversion from an auto to a manual. I have a 79 auto with a 79 parts car that is manual and complete. I would love to hear a little about your experience with this conversion. Did everything line up the way you expected (other than the springs)? Did the mounts/pedals/cables/shifter/etc. all just bolt in, or did you have to make some special modifications? I'd appreciate any information you can provide, as I may very well take this on as a winter project.

Thanks.
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Hi 00sportsman, you are lucky to have a parts car for your conversion. I had to build the drive shaft from the books. I did get there. You should be able to transfer box and driveshaft without any problem. Obviously you may want to renew clutch and pressure plate, certainly the release bearing, driveshaft donut, universal joints etc. Fixing the pedal is easy and I have just been through fitting the return spring under the dash. This is a tough little spring, but a genius from this site solved that problem for me. Spring now in position. You will need to make up a support plate for the bulkhead where the clutch cable passes through the bulkhead to the pedal. I used a metal plate with a large washer and a smaller washer drilled out to match the collar on the cable. You will be able to check your 5 speed car to see what i mean. The removal of the autoshifter is yet to be resolved. I have posted the question on the site to see if I can get help.

I managed to get many of the bits I needed from a savour called Moana Matt who posts on this site from time to time, but you should have all you need from your parts car. I am hopeful the conversion will be good. Oh...when you take out the 5 speed, remove the top cover and check the selectors for movement, they should be firm without movement. If not, you may want to rebuild the box. I'm sure others on this site will have more on this.
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Baz
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