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Vince Vaughn vs Anderson Cooper

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Well all I can say is: who ever would even think using the word gay in a sentence is gay and offensive, must be a retard. Pulling a trailer because Vince Vaughn said "thats Gay" WTF Hate to tell you, not really. But Gay meant happy and jolly before the Gays took it over. Apparently the Gays took it over because it meant happy and jolly, which they are apparently. So what up coopers pooper? So Cooper must be unhappy that the word gay was used because he doesn't want man with man happy... Or he's getting ready to come out of the closet this time... Or, he forgot to look the word up in a dictionary and forgot about the most common use in america. Slang. I'm sure we all know Fifty Cent's real name isn't two quarters. :mrgreen:
I can tell you this:
White people are ruining it for white people with all the new "thats offensive" BullS***. I don't believe hardly any of it. Look it up online. There is NO place to call, write, text, email, send a video too. I don't know anyone thats offended. I ask everyone i know and frankly nobody gives a crap. I bet its like that in most places. Its all the MEDIA trying to out juice another MEDIA company for ratings. Then the ill informed public thinks they need to believe it because someone popular said it on TV. Then Whaamo. You have a country full of Monkey See, Monkey Doo'ers. Sheesh. I personally get tired of it. Can you tell.
FYI I am not by no means bashing whites or gays, just tired of the "thats offensive" game that seems that only white people pretend to think that other races find offensive. Thats called here say and that's not even legal in Court.

So if anyone is offended, Which I don't know why you would be. Speak up with a legitimate reason.
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Is this about football or something? That's offensive to me. :mrgreen: Just kidding. I feel the same way about things.
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Man there are just so many jokes, I can't take it!! :cry:

Ron please step in here?

My neigbors are Gay and no jokes or words are off limits with them.
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I think there is something going on with Cooper and he is going to go to his grave with his little secret.
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MNspiderman wrote:I think there is something going on with Cooper and he is going to go to his grave with his little secret.
No secret,its called looking for anything that can make their name rise in the news blurbs and sound bites.

There are lots of words not being used anymore:

faggot- a bundle of sticks
fag- an English term for a cigarette
fagged out- tired, worn out after extreme exertion
niggardly-stingy, meager

One can go on. Honestly though, when was the last time you wanted to really use the word gay? When you sang the theme song from the Flintstones? It no longer has any other meaning anyone is likely to use as it is just not the type of descriptor we use to describe one's current state of being anymore.

Honestly I can understand why some people are sensitive to particular words as they may have lived with them being used as a pejorative. If you were homosexual (or even not homosexual) and have been labelled as gay all through your teens, when someone uses the word and uses it such that one doesn't mean happy but instead is using its more modern meaning which suggests a negative, I can see it being pretty offensive.

Just as at one time being referred to as a square head or any of a variety of terms related to where they came from (Sweden/Germany in my case) back in the day. I am sure there are many on this forum who would rightly take real offense to being labelled as a function of their heritage, appearance or disability. If you were missing a digit or had suffered an accident that deprived you of the use of a limb you wouldn't want to be referred to as a gimp or should per chance you lack the normal level of intelligence be a retard. One could certainly go on. At length.

Just because you are not sensitive to a word and its meaning doesn't mean it isn't offensive.

PC does go overboard but it is like any pendulum, it is going too far beyond center the one way because it had gone just as far the other way in the past.

What I really resent is how few really good words people use to communicate or even understand because they really haven't taken their education very seriously: I used the word commodious yesterday and everyone in the room just looked at me blankly. Its rare that a day goes by where I inadvertently use some apparently archaic word and several people in the room have no idea what you are talking about.
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“Well all I can say is: who ever would even think using the word gay in a sentence is gay and offensive, must be a retard”.

Do you mean retard like my developmentally delayed sister? Is this word’s pejorative context “legitimate reason” for me to be offended? Let’s look at your opener again:

“Well all I can say is: who ever would even think using the word gay in a sentence is gay and offensive, must be a retard”

WOW. The amount of ignorance packed into one sentence there is amazing. It doesn’t even make sense: “…the word gay in a sentence is gay and offensive…” WTF? Is it gay to use the word gay in a sentence? Is that what you’re trying to ask?

Do you really think that the use of the word GAY is meant to refer to a pleasant state of being within context to someone taking issue with something? Really? Seems to me that a pleasant state of being is very unlikely to be used in the pejorative. Much less likely than a population of underrepresented and commonly hated minorities who can’t even marry the person they’ve fallen in love with because it makes straight people uncomfortable. The argument that the pejorative use of the word gay is meant to refer to anything that is happy rather than to that which is homosexual is offensive to me. It’s also offensive to each of my friends, and begs for the personal attack that I'm resisting.

“White people are ruining it for white people with all the new "thats offensive" BullS***.” Where does race enter in to this? Really, I’d like this answered. WTF? What exactly is being ruined, and why is “it” being ruined for those of a specific race by those of a specific race? I’ll go ahead and suspend my offense in case it’s not a “legitimate reason” based on your response. Just FYI: both Your “hear say” argument and your understanding of judicial process would have more credibility if you spelled hearsay correctly.

I believe you that those you ask are not offended by the pejorative use of the word gay, and they don’t give a crap. This can be compared to water seeking the path of least resistance, or in this case, blithe ignorance taking the fluid like path of least resistance until each of the Great Lakes are filled with it. “I don't know anyone thats offended. I ask everyone i know and frankly nobody gives a crap. I bet its like that in most places.”

Minnesota is one of the whitest states in the country, making the top five list at 88.6 percent. Only five percent of Minnesota’s population is foreign born. Only one percent of Minnesota’s residents are made up of two or more races. Only eight percent of homes in Minnesota use a language other than English. Minnesota is 4.7 percent black, and 4.3 percent Latino. Black people own 1.8 percent of the businesses in Minnesota. Asian people own 1.7 percent of the businesses in Minnesota. No reports as to the numbers of homosexuals there in Bloomington, Hennepin County, or the state of Minnesota. I suspect that fear might have something to do with that.

(http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/27000.html)

"By 2005, the number of same-sex couples increased to 10,899.3 This increase likely reflects same-sex couples’ growing willingness to disclose their partnerships on government surveys.
• In 2005, there were an estimated 121,645 gay, lesbian, and bisexual people (single and coupled) living in Oregon."

http://www.law.ucla.edu/williamsinstitu ... apshot.pdf

I suspect that their being recognized, and/or respected by the largest segment of Oregon's population might have something to do with that. Just sayin'...


My point here is that Minnesota Spiderman is likely a sample from a population who is one of the least likely in the United States to have been exposed to or understand issues like cultural and/or racial bias. Do you think he knows how it might be really damn hard to be different when the word he had to use to describe his difference was also used to define all that is negative? I don’t. His qualifications for identifying what he described as a game “that only white people pretend to think that other races find offensive” seem slim to me because of the statistically low chance that he spends much time with any non-white people while also chatting them up about racial politics. I bet there are even fewer openly gay people in Hennepin County than there are non-white people. How would he know what this population does, or does not find offensive? Should he just trust the internet? Roughly seventy five percent of Minnesota’s residents have less than a bachelor’s degree, and though I believe that Minnesota Spiderman wasn’t bashing homosexuals, I’ll bet he’s had fewer than 2 of them in his home within the last year.

Minnesota Spiderman’s credibility as a stand-up car guy has been made clear within other topics, and I’d shake his hand at a car show & talk Fiats for hours without hesitation.

Minnesota Spiderman, you’re making the narcissistic assumption that most people think like you do and THAT is offensive to me. Still, I’m not nearly as offended by your post as I am entertained. Your post gave me a strange hakering for chewing tobacco. If my sister had the capacity to understand your meaning (not that I get it either) she would likely be unimpressed at the least.

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I realize that the forum is "Off Topic &Social" but I'm afraid that this thread is way too far "Off Topic" and certainly not very "Social" to be part of the Forum.
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