What's different about '74s?

General chat about the car goes in here.
Post Reply
User avatar
perthling
Posts: 349
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:04 pm
Your car is a: 1974 124 Spider
Location: Western Australia

What's different about '74s?

Post by perthling »

A post on another forum got me thinking about the vagaries of the 1974 model. As you probably know this was a bit of a transition year and had some unique features.

So far I'm aware of the following features of the '74 model:
First of the 1756cc engine (CS1 spec) but last of the blade bumpers
Bumpers mounted on rubber blocks and tubes rather than dumb irons (earlier) or compressing tubes (later tube style)
CA/MD versions had long rubber blocks in place of overriders (different bumper design)
Tall thin overriders on front bumper, small rectangular style on rear
Rear overriders located nearer to edge of car than earlier models
Rear springs lower (or front springs higher) than earlier models
'1800' badge in block style mounted to left rear near trunk lock rather than right rear fender above taillight.

Any other unique features?
_______________________
Perthling
1974 Fiat 124 Spider (blade bumper 1756cc)
1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
1975 Fiat 124 CC (project)
1969 Fiat 124AC (project)
1997 Coupe Fiat 20VT (daily driver)
http://www.fiatlancia.org.au
User avatar
124ADDHE
Posts: 365
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:19 pm
Your car is a: 1974 Spider Amalgamation with C40 Solex
Location: Salmon Arm, BC, Canada

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by 124ADDHE »

Only year with 34dmsa carb, last year of fresh-air vents, had electric fuel pump and 4-2-1 exhaust
Regards,
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
User avatar
perthling
Posts: 349
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:04 pm
Your car is a: 1974 124 Spider
Location: Western Australia

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by perthling »

Fresh air vents? Not sure which ones you're referring to.

Regarding the 4-2-1 exhaust, that wasn't exclusive to 74s as I understand, this was part of the changes when the 1756cc was introduced but carried on for more than just the '74 model year. However, happy to be corrected. And the electric fuel pump also carried onwards from '74 if I'm not mistaken; only earlier models had the mechanical pump in the block.
_______________________
Perthling
1974 Fiat 124 Spider (blade bumper 1756cc)
1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
1975 Fiat 124 CC (project)
1969 Fiat 124AC (project)
1997 Coupe Fiat 20VT (daily driver)
http://www.fiatlancia.org.au
User avatar
124ADDHE
Posts: 365
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:19 pm
Your car is a: 1974 Spider Amalgamation with C40 Solex
Location: Salmon Arm, BC, Canada

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by 124ADDHE »

The fresh air vents were a really nice feature, the drew fresh air from under the cowl ( just like the intake for the heater matrix) on both driver and passanger sides and alowed an optional fresh blast of air. You are totally correct about the exhaust and fuel pump though. I don't know what year that the oil pressure gauge was abandoned, it is on my 74 but not on the 78. Also my 74 had that ?vitantonio? Mirror.
Regards,
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
User avatar
perthling
Posts: 349
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:04 pm
Your car is a: 1974 124 Spider
Location: Western Australia

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by perthling »

Ah, you mean the ones with the spring-tensioned lever, located above the knees under the dash. Didn't realise they ceased after '74.

The Vitaloni mirror on the thin stem was fitted to earlier models as well as the '74.
_______________________
Perthling
1974 Fiat 124 Spider (blade bumper 1756cc)
1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
1975 Fiat 124 CC (project)
1969 Fiat 124AC (project)
1997 Coupe Fiat 20VT (daily driver)
http://www.fiatlancia.org.au
User avatar
manoa matt
Posts: 3442
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:28 pm
Your car is a: 1978 Fiat 124 Spider 1800
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by manoa matt »

76 models had fresh air vents under the dash and a electric fuel pump.
Exit98

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by Exit98 »

Yup, what Matt says.

My very early 76 has the air vents. Its got an electric fuel pump too though I'm not sure its stock.
mikeg

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by mikeg »

The real transition year was 1973 at least in the US. Mid year the engine was switched from the 1608 cc to the 1592 cc, appearantly for some tax rule in Italy where they needed to be under 1600 cc. This engine was the precursor to the 1756, and had many of the changes that were seen on the 1756, it was the first to have the 4-2-1 exhaust and the duel point distributors. This model also had the bumpers mounted on rubber blocks. This change protected the bumper from damage as it just folded down on impact. I have first hand experience, well the wife does actually, she was driving the first time this happened. This '73 model was also the first with the small bump hood and the '73 and '74 were the only models with the small bump hood where the Fiat badge was on the gril and not the hood. I bought one of the last 4 '73 spiders that were shipped to Houston, the next shipment were all '74s.
User avatar
124ADDHE
Posts: 365
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:19 pm
Your car is a: 1974 Spider Amalgamation with C40 Solex
Location: Salmon Arm, BC, Canada

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by 124ADDHE »

Mike, didnt the fiat grill-badge only come on the units with the honeycomb grill? My 74' had the badge on the small-bump hood and the pressed-steel grill.
Regards,
Keith Cox
1973 124 Spider
1973 John Deere 500c backhoe
1987 Jaguar VDP
2013 passat tdi
2015 cherokee
User avatar
perthling
Posts: 349
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:04 pm
Your car is a: 1974 124 Spider
Location: Western Australia

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by perthling »

mikeg wrote: This '73 model was also the first with the small bump hood and the '73 and '74 were the only models with the small bump hood where the Fiat badge was on the gril and not the hood. I bought one of the last 4 '73 spiders that were shipped to Houston, the next shipment were all '74s.
My understanding was that the small bump hood came in with the BS series Spiders, which had the badge on the grille. Then the CS and CS1 Spiders changed to the aluminium grille and the badge moved to the hood.

Again, maybe Fiat were using up the last of the BS series hoods on the start of the CS models, so there was a bit of a corssover?
_______________________
Perthling
1974 Fiat 124 Spider (blade bumper 1756cc)
1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
1975 Fiat 124 CC (project)
1969 Fiat 124AC (project)
1997 Coupe Fiat 20VT (daily driver)
http://www.fiatlancia.org.au
User avatar
SLOSpider
Posts: 1140
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:10 am
Your car is a: 1973 124 Spider 2.0FI
Location: Lompoc, Ca USA

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by SLOSpider »

124ADDHE wrote:Only year with 34dmsa carb, last year of fresh-air vents, had electric fuel pump and 4-2-1 exhaust

My 75 has fresh air vents and im pretty sure my 76 had them too.
1975 124 Spider
1976 Mazda Cosmo http://www.mazdacosmo.com
1989 Chevy k5 Blazer
1967 GT Mustang Fastback
mikeg

Re: What's different about '74s?

Post by mikeg »

Well, Fiat is known for using up inventory or pulling parts from next year's model to finish building cars, there are a number of '78s out there with spider 2000 doors for example. Since I bought the car new all I can attest to with any certanty is how mine was equipped. It had the aluminum cross bar grill, and a large round mounting plate on which the Fiat badge was attached. The hood had the small bumps and no dimple for a hood badge. As a result of those great rubber mounted bumpers the hood had to be replaced about 1975 or 6 and the replacement hood had a dimple for the badge that the body shop filled with bondo. Something you just can't forget.

As far as bumps on the hood, it was started on the BS cars, I stand corrected. The 124 CS was, according to Tipler's book, intorduced in July of '73. My guess is that these cars or at least mine (purchased on September 28, 1973) had the BS hood with a CS1 grill, so the badge had to go on the grill as there was no dimple in the hood. The CS spiders only were in production for a very short time as the 1974 models were I believe CS1s.
Post Reply