Illegal to pump gas in South East Oregon

[Europa]

.. LD

Nice to have you back, LD!

[rlux4]

LD! You were right next door (sort of) and you didn't call me? You dirty dog!
Hope you got everything done you wanted.
Ron

[GOPAPA]

LD! You were right next door (sort of) and you didn't call me? You dirty dog!
Hope you got everything done you wanted.
Ron

I appoligize for not being able to meet up with you and my excuse is I worked every day I was there from June 12th - July 5th from early morning to at least 8 oclock and some times later on his house ,,,except for the two days my Son and his lovely wife made reservations in Santa Barbara at the Fess Parker hotel and a Chaufere ride to a place called the Stone House to celabrate our 33rd anniversary..we took the double decker bus ride and toured the city ,,and also for what it was worth ,,we got to see the gate that leads to Oprah's house too.. Yes ,,yes ,,I did take a picture of the Gate ,,LOL .. As for the adjective words you spat at me .. (just joking) I was literally a dirty dog every day until I got into the shower at night.. I will share pictures of much of this if it is okay with all ,,,,,,Not the shower pictures either,,and if not I will send some to you by PM hoping not to lose a good friend ..
I still look forward in having you stop in with your wife in a couple weeks or so from now ..

now back to the question about gas pumping ...


I did fill up with gas to day in our small town near me called Rainier and I ask the guy who pumped my gas to top it and he told me it is agaisnt the Law anywhere in Oregon ,,so now we all know the answer to that.. I buy my gas in Washington and pump my own as it is only about 8 mile from my house and that is where we shop also ..

[mbouse]

Hey, LD!! i knew you could not stay away.... welcome back, man!

there is no legislature in this country that truly believes the safety factor concerning self-pumping fuel. it is all about jobs and earning a living verses receiving unemployment "compensation".

Michigan continues to have the nation's highest unemployment rate. if reverting to 100% attendant pumped fuel would help to reduce that figure significantly, i'd vote in favor in a heartbeat. much better to give a person something to do, than to give a handout.

if you gotta wait three stinking minutes for an attendant and are miffed about that, you should consider slowing your lifestyle down a bit.

[So Cal Mark]

creating or maintaining minimum wage/entry level jobs is not doing anyone any favors. How many Walmart greeters do we need?

[Gunsmith]

This is true Mark, passing laws preventing me from doing something anyone can do just to give someone a job who really doesn't want one anyways is not a good idea. There is no way this will help the economy or help someone support their family. We are talking about the same job historically performed by teenagers who would either be doing that or bagging groceries for you. I also believe Michigan is only going to get worse unfortunately and many people won't have enough money to pay the guy to put gas in their repossessed car anyway. Why don't they convert the manufacturing plants to making all of this green technology we are supposed to be getting?

Now to get back on the subject. It is hard to find a full service gas station around here any more and I wish we did have more. I would rather my wife and mother get gas from them instead. Not that I don't think they can do it but I feel they are safer in their car. It would also save me time from having to check the tires and oil on multiple vehicles. But there must not be that many people thinking the same thing because more stations would offer it if people were willing to pay for it. I would also not like to pay the additional money when I go to fill up the boat. It holds 200 gallons and every penny counts when you pump that much.

[mbouse]

creating or maintaining minimum wage/entry level jobs is not doing anyone any favors. How many Walmart greeters do we need?

i disagree, respectfully. give a guy a hand out and you feed him for a day. give a guy a job, and you could be teaching him how to feed himself. entry level jobs lead to "better" jobs in the future. and that does not even begin to address the self-respect aspect that living on the dole defeats.

the cost to the taxpayer is ultimately the same. unemployed workers get 'compensated' via tax dollars, just like welfare recepients...where do those funds come from? .... from tax payers! welfare is intended to make people dependant on the government permanently--thus the government self promotes itself.

no offense to anyone intended, but i'd much rather see someone DOING SOMETHING for his pittance, than sitting on his keester waiting for the government check to arrive in the mail slot. and, to defeat the nay-sayers before they even start... i AM speaking from experience.

can i do this work? of course. are fuel station attendants necessary? no. but, neither is sitting around doing nothing and expecting to be compensated; it is not necessary. there are plenty of things that can be done for pay; just ask any illegal immigrant.

[launieg]

Although I was surprised and even annoyed at times when I lived in Eugene OR for a while, I got used to not being in a rush, and pumping my own gas. Although I like selfserve if it saves me money, lately I've been stopping at a local station that pumps my gas (johnny on the spot too), cleans my windshield, and is genuinely friendly - all at self-serve price. But then I live in a small community where these things happen.

By the way, do newer cars get by without checking the oil like when there were actually "service" stations that did that all the time?

LD, I've been missing your posts! Welcome back.

[GOPAPA]

thanks to all who have missed me .. and welcomed me back ..I missed you too..

There are so many things about this gas pumping by either some one else or your self that makes it hard to decide which I would rather have it from day to day ..but mostly I agree with Mike ...heres a for instance ,,when I get all prettied up with my finest threads I would welcome some one to get gas smell all over them rather than me ,,and my great grandaughter might not have a job here in Oregon if there were not such a law because she works at a mini-mart and she pumps gas and tends the cash register ..the one less mini-mart worker could be her ,,, I do believe that some ofthe poor folks would not have a job if not for pumping gas and some of them poor folks are senior citizens who supliment thier income by pumping gas..

the more I think about it ,,and reading Mikes argument in favor ,,I would vote the same way my dad did years ago here in Oregon..to have some one else pump my gas.. LD

P.S. one of the reasons why they wont top off a gas tank is to keep gas off the ground from over filling ..but you probably already knew this didn't you ?

[So Cal Mark]

I wasn't advocating unemployment checks for everyone, but there is something better than creating millions of jobs that don't support a living wage. Does a Walmart greeter move up the ladder and become the store manager some day? Possible, but I doubt it's happened yet. I'd rather see gas pumping kids in school learning a trade than filling gas tanks all day. Can a gas pumper live on that wage? rent an apartment? earn enough for food, or god forbid, health care? Jobs like that are meant as a supplement for students, and that's about it

[mbouse]

unemployment checks are here, and are here to stay. no need to advocate them..they are a fact of life in this society where the government daily forces itself onto the public in every which way it can, with increasing ferocity. the same goes for the welfare system...which feeds far more families than our forefathers ever intended.

why not get some labor out of some while handing out that cash, rather than allowing the able bodied to sit around and collect their 'allotment' totally unearned??

i'd rather see folks go to school to better themselves as well, but we both know that this won't happen for everyone.

[So Cal Mark]

since we've gotten completely off topic let's discuss unemployment, not welfare since the two are different subjects. Why not have a system requiring work for unemployment checks after a certain amount of time? Say, 4 weeks. After that time you would have to work to earn the unemployment check. It would sure push civic projects along

[MNspiderman]

So if your saying that after 30 days, the state can make you hold a sign or paint a light pole to earn your unemployment check, sweep the sidewalks, etc etc etc. Thats a good idea.

[mbouse]

So if your saying that after 30 days, the state can make you hold a sign or paint a light pole to earn your unemployment check, sweep the sidewalks, etc etc etc. Thats a good idea.

or, pump your gas.

no different than what i was saying.... do we need this work... prolly not. could i do it myself... prolly.

work for pay.

not pay for nuttin'

i can go along with that.

[mdrburchette]

We could do this for welfare checks as well, since most unemployment is paid for by employers. There's no reason for an able bodied person to work for the money they receive.