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New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:29 pm
by SLOSpider
I got a soft touch dash to replace the warped cracked stock one. If you think its plug and play guess again. Spent almost the whole day for fitment issues and getting it right and still need to work on the glove box hinges so lid fits straight and center. Plan on modifying the defroster duct and get your file out for some itchy dash adjustment to the glove box and gauge section. I think they get too much money for these things that require this much work to fit. Where to I send my labor bill to?

Well to start it looks great. There is a sean mold on the pad below glove box but not an BIG issues. The gauge cluster is too tight and some filling with a big rasp file to open up the edges was requires but not alot. The glove box on the other hand has to have about 1/8 to 1/4 inch filled away on the inside section for glove box to even start to fit in. The metal plates for the glove box latch are not there so you will have to remove the rivets off the old dash and watch your drill go thru the top of it. I guess grinding or chisel is better of you want to keep the old dash hole free for some reason, I wasnt concerned about it. There are two holes in the rubber that match the top plate but none for the larger lower plate with 4 rivets. not wanting to poke a hole or more into the new dash top I elected to use some rivets and attach the lock plate only. Make sure you have shorter rivets and the proper diameter.

Once that was done I had to salvage brackets off old dash for lower end mounts. At least they used the correct size studs. Had to adjust one side stud more center but other stud was not molded in right and centering it would only make it further away from bracket hole so I notched the bracket. Glove box hinges now have studs in them not screws as factory so you will need to source 4 small nuts. Not a problem as I used the ones off the mount brackets from another old dash. You will also want to fist mount your glove box as it will no longer go in with the hinges on first, they dont move out of the way enough. Fitting the glove box door on reveals it sits too high so I will have to see about shimming the hinges down and see if that works.

Fitting in the car you will probably find the defroster duct is keeping the dash from sitting back nicely. Original dash the duct is right in the upper edge of the dash. The new dash has 1/4 inch less room there. So I cut the corners on the defroster and used a heat gun to fold the front edge back about 1/4 inch to get the clearance back.

There is no center metal plate or provisions to rivet the old plate on so your on you own. I dont have the lights in the wood so Im leaving as is and going to attache the switches directly to the center plate and then use 2 screw to secure to dash as last owner did. I painted the center trim black and because the center section was in bad shape I wrapped it in some vinyl. Looks pretty good.

In all I wouldn't expect this from a $500 dollar (with shipping) dash. For $250 I wouldnt mind the extra 6 hours it takes to make this fit right.

I will add anything further if I come across something on the install.

I hope to finish extending the wires for hazard and wiper relay that were located behind the dash to under the glove box where they should be. They thought of this on later models. Then I can FINALLY put the dash back together. Then finish some sound deadening and lower my trans as it is pressing up against the tunnel too tight. Not sure if its the new mount or what.

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Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:57 pm
by srwilson
It's looking good! Thumbs Up!

My soft touch console required quite a bit of trimming too, especially around the heater control.

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:55 am
by westy64
Very nice job !
Can I send you mine ?
Who is the source ?

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:22 am
by johndemar
I know that Csaba and Ramzi have them. And I agree the center console is easier, but did require fitting as well. Thought about the dash but opted for a dash mat for now. Nice work on your part. Not sure I'd have the patience.

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:24 am
by spidernut
Your dash wood looks great with the new dash. Thanks for posting all the pics. You convinced me not to buy one. :)

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:14 pm
by seabeelt
Have to agree it was a whole lot of work to install the new soft dash. I am still not totally happy with the fit and i may take it out and do some more tweaking over the winter. Everything aligned perfectly while on the work bench. Did have to install the glove box latch anchor as well as the glove box hinges with a lot of modification. Trimmed about 1/8 inch all around to get the actual glove box to fit the opening without binding. Missing enough material on the sides of the glove box opening for the horizontal screw attachments. Gauge side still looks a little lopsided in the car as the gap is not even top to bottom. Looks like there is some flex or bowing of the dash. At first I thought it was the heater box. I have trimmed that a couple of times. It looks like it is more of a total width issue. Very difficult to install the end caps without causing more pressure/bow. Also could use the outer two mounting bolts (only had the inner two). I don't mind the work, but I think the mold dimensions need some improvement/tweaking to get a truly really good product.

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:11 am
by TommyClocks
The dash looks great! I need to replace the dash in my Spider as well. I was curious about the "Soft-touch" dash and have some questions. Is this the replacement dash that is sold by IAP or Mr Fiat? I saw the prices and they cost about $420 plus shipping. The other question is whether there is a difference between the pre-1979 Spiders and the later ones as far as dashboard fitment?

Spider soft dash or hard dash cover?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:57 am
by PleasantSpider
I am replacing my dash soon - like, within the next couple of weeks. Anyone have recommendations on soft dash vs hard cover? Seems like both are hard work and require extra fitting but for the price savings the cover sounds inviting... I'm eager to hear what y'all think...

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:03 pm
by Auspider
Man that dash looks sexy. What kind of wood did you use?

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:21 am
by SLOSpider
The dashes on differ from the wood that goes in the cluster section from what I have seen. Some have a hump at the bottom of the wood to go over the hump in the dash above the steering wheel. The others have a flat bottom on the cluster wood and flat opening on the dash. It was purchased thru AR. Not sure what kind of wood that is as it came with a parts car but in pretty bad shape. Have not worked on the car in months as I need to get some floor boards fixed so I can finish up the inside.

Brian

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:55 am
by focodave
Auspider wrote:Man that dash looks sexy. What kind of wood did you use?
The grain and color look very much like mahogany.

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:40 pm
by RRoller123
Looks like Philippine Mahogany.

Re: New soft touch dash install spider

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:12 pm
by njoconnor
Been a while since I had anything to post, but I just (well almost) finished my new soft dash. Here's the product of today's work:

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I also got the matching soft dash, and finished installing the new wood and the new leather boot:

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Got the dash & console from AR, and was quite pleased with the quality of both pieces. Like Brian, had to do a fair amount of trimming and adjusting, but I'm really happy with the results. Wood is from Chris Obert, center chrome piece from Vick's. Test fit in the car will come once I finish the carpeting. Insulation (EZ Cool) is all in, and I added two thicknesses of white "hobby foam" from Michaels, as recommended by Pete (RRoller). I'm trying to get as much done in JAN as possible; spouse has scheduled FEB as "build a bunch of square foot garden boxes" month!