engine stand

[azygoustoyou]

Hi all,
I'm getting a 2 ton engine hoist to remove my engine and tranny. I was wondering if I should buy a engine stand for when it's out of the car, and what rating should I get? I would like to keep the engine and tranny together if possible. As far as I know, they have been redone. About how much does the engine weigh? Tranny ? How heavy are the 124's ? Also I would like to know how heavy the unibody weighs with everything off it. Thanks. This will help me with the restoration part of getting ready.

[htchevyii]

Even the cheapest engine stand you can find should be more than enough for a FIAT. I've seen people use 2 engine stands for a rotisserie, I think a bare shell is about 400 lbs? I like to mount the stand to the side of the eng stand, so I can get to the back of the engine, flywheel, etc.

[pope]

Even the engine stands by Fisher-Price and Barbie will work.

[So Cal Mark]

when Barbie and Ken pull the motor from the Corvette they gotta put it somewhere

[azygoustoyou]

ok guys,
Your funny. Did Barbie and Ken leave the tranny connected to the engine? Will the engine stand hold both the engine and the tranny? I noticed you could get a 3/4 ton up to a 4 ton stand. let me make sure you know, I'm talking about the engine stand and not the engine hoist. I was thinking that maybe I might have to secure a harness or brace under the tranny end if I leave it connected to the engine while it's out and on the stand. I just want to do this right. This is my baby were talking about!

[mbouse]

the car fully equipped is 2-2,200# so any 3/4 ton stand will be more than adequate.

don't most engine stands mount to the engine by the tranny mounts? so, will you be bolting the stand to the tranny/engine by what, the tranny/chassis mount?

is it not possible to leave the combination dangling from the hoist long enough to get your task completed? you're gonna need the hoist to return the assembly back to the car anyway...right?

[manoa matt]

If you want to mount the engine and transmission together on an engine stand, you will have to bolt it one of the engine mount bosses on the side of the block....but. Even with the block alone mounted there, its a small mounting area and low on the block. Depending upon the leg configuration of the engine stand it can be unstable. Personally I don't think mounting the engine and trans together on a stand is a good idea. If it tips over once thats a lot of weight comming down, and something is going to break. I think the block weighs in the neighborhood of 200-250 pounds and the trans about 60-75 pounds.

[azygoustoyou]

Ok, thanks, What I'll do is use the hoist to pull out the eng.and trans. keeping it together and then use a couple 2x10 's and cut it to fit around the bottom on both ends to hold the entire assembly up until I get the body done with the rotisserie. I never used a hoist or a stand before. That's why all the questions. Do you think I should purchase a engine leveler for the hoist? Would that make it easier to get the assembly out of the frame?

[htchevyii]

The other problem is that with the stand bolted to the side, the engine rotates "end over end". It is pretty well balanced without the head on, (I prefer to remove the head before pulling the eng & trans as a unit). The trans would probabily hit the bottom of the stand if mounted this way or at the very least would be very hard to rotate.

[Ernie]

Brady,

You'll be doing yourself a big favor if you get the load leveler. Until you've seen it or done it, you'll be surprised what an angle you need for the complete engine and trans to go in.

I even put the rear of the car on jack stands to help out with the angle.

Lube the screw on the leveler before you start to make it work smoother.

Ernie

[spider2081]

I fabricated a box out of 3/4" plywood that holds the engine or the engine and transmission. The inside deminsion of the box is just large enough for the oil pan to fit in. The bottom is larger for stability with either the engine alone or with the transmission assembled. The base is 14"x30". The box sits 2" from the foward edge and is centered width wise. The outside deminsion of the box is 9.5" x 18" x 6" high. It is held together with 2" sheetrock screws and glue.I have used this box many times and its very stable. It also comes in handy when assembling the clutch and transmission to the engine.
I thought of putting some small dolly wheels on it but havn't yet. Hope this is some help.

[azygoustoyou]

Thanks spider.
That does help.

[spider2081]

I messed up on the measurements. The oil pan is larger in the front than the back. THe front of the box is 10". So the box is not square. Its 10 x 18 x9.5 inches. These are the outside measurements of the box constructed out of 3/4" plywood. I built another one today with dollies so I could roll the engine around.

[pope]

spider 2081,
All that talk, but we are visual people. How about a few pictures of the box with your dimensions!

[spider2081]

I have 2 photos but don't know how to post them. I can email them to you.